OMG, I Got The Google Ban?


How well do you know about Google penalties? Don’t you agree we sometimes worked too hard in our work at home business and may have overlooked its relevance and importance. Well if like me, you may not have an easy time juggling with just too much work on your hands, coupled with a day job that sucks your life away. The last thing you really want to worry about is incurring the wrath of God Google, who when applying the fullest extent of its power, can make you lose your pagerank or the ultimatum - de-indexing your website. Two weeks ago, I had the Google penalty. Or did I?

Two weeks ago all my main keywords that I ranked, specifically ‘work at home ideas‘, and ‘legitimate home internet business‘ lost their usual page 3 SERP from Google. On checking further, they were nowhere in sight not even in hundred positions. I think I got the dreaded Google penalty.

Conduct Test for Google Penalty

  1. Check that the number of urls Google previously indexed your website remains the same. (I used this tool, Website Grader and found out I had the same number of urls indexed)
  2. Did you link to any “bad” sites. Check your outbound links to determine if you may have inadvertently linked to sites on gambling, casino, porn, link farms, doorway pages. (I used Bad Neighborhood detection tool and found a handful of suspects and deleted them immediately. Do take note that this tool though useful for this purpose, may not be perfect as it’s selection criteria uses keywords associated with such “problem sites”. So a perfectly legitimate home internet business whose webmaster includes the word ’sexy’ in the post title may be flagged out too.)
  3. Have you over-optimized your website, a technique sometimes used by others in aggressive link building using the same anchor text keywords instead of having a good variety of the main keywords. ( I have followed a very clean link building strategy after having written my 5-part link building strategy blog series. Read up Matt Cutt’s warning about possible penalty on keyword stuffing.)
  4. Do you buy or sell links? Everyone is familiar with Google’s stand on the buying and selling of backlinks. As it firmly promotes a more natural link building within the blogosphere, such penalties can be expected for companies and others who blatantly do this. ( I don’t buy links but I do sell text links on this blog. I wouldn’t be concerned about selling ad space on your own website without a 3rd party, as there is no way a search engine could track this)
  5. Automated Page redirect - Bloggers using JavaScript automated re-directs often result in Google penalties as these pages are perceived to be doorway pages.(I don’t practice this)
  6. Have you done too much reciprocal linking: Google’s algorithm may activate its filters when there are incidents of unnatural backlinks accumulation through excessive reciprocal links exchange using the same anchor text links.( I avoid reciprocal link exchange focusing more on one-way and three way linking)

What You Can Do When You Get The Google Penalty

  1. If you really have the Google penalty, you should contact Google to find what really you have done wrong or contravened their bible Google Webmaster Guidelines.
  2. Correct your website problems e.g. keyword over optimization. If this penalty has caused you losing your page rank, Google may take a couple of months before your page rank is restored.
  3. If your website has been de-indexed by Google, correct your problems immediately and submit a Google re-inclusion request.

My brush with God Google ended as sudden as it came, after 4 traumatizing days. Fortunately I did not get slapped with a Google penalty although I think Google algorithm may have a clever way getting my utmost attention to a ‘what if’ scenario. The two possible reasons I think this happened were because firstly I failed to update my website within the 17-day frequency, something which I have written about before. Secondly I was not doing enough in backlink accumulation. That said, my SERP came back to page 3 positions for ‘work at home ideas‘ and ‘legitimate home internet business‘ and I was relieved. Even my ‘Squidoo Secrets‘ keyword resumed it’s page 1 ranking. As they say, after bitterness, sweetness follows.

What do you think?

Do you believe the business you are conducting does not violate Google Webmaster Guidelines or you strictly follow a white hat SEO approach. Or do you have a few grey areas or techniques which you may need to look at a little closer. I love to hear from you and getting your insights.


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  • dennishampton
    Man Peter, I hope that I can stay on the good side of Google as I work way to hard to try and get my web site ranked with SEO marketing. This was a great eye opening article and I appreciate your telling all about your experience. Will take what you have written very much to heart. Again thanks for the post.
  • Don't worry, such things will happen time and time again. What I recommend is getting the site reconsideration?
  • bestmanish
    It is a great filling of working with Google and milestones are always a good time for introspection. Interesting, fun, surprising, insightful, inspiring, impactful, and more such words.

    Google is not quite as big as many companies out there, but in its space it has a huge user base for most of its applications (search and beyond). Anything you analytics menu-googlework on will probably touch hundreds of thousands of people.

    Thanks

    working for google from home

    www.howiworkfromhome.info/google-cash/?p=3
  • Peter, I am happy to hear that you were returned to the index. I wasn't so lucky!

    Sometime ago I was completely deindexed and because I was so new to the net I thought that creating a website was a set-it-and-forget-it type of thing so I wasn't monitoring it. It wasn't until I didn't receive any Clickbank payments one month that alerted me to what had happened.

    I asked Google, they never responded and not knowing what to do I started over from scratch (new host, new page design, new copy, etc.)! It was devastating to say the lease but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger and wiser. I took me about 4 months to get reindexed again and since then I make sure that every free chance I get I research how to keep my edge so it doesn't happen to me again.

    Your tips are very helpful and I thank you for posting them here.

    Paul
  • Hi Peter Lee, that must have been quite a scare! I have a website about home decor that is getting great traffic from organic search results, and I would be stuffed if that would drop off! You are lucky it came back to what it was. Google is really very clever, but I guess you never know what really happened... I will have to check out your 17-day-fequency post, that sounds very interesting! Thanks for sharing.
  • oh i forgot to say i tried the website grader thats a real cool tool and i found out that my blog is a high b low a or better yet a score of 89 to 100 ranking as far as the tool claims hoping that it is accurate
  • thats a bummer that google dropped your page rank from a 3 to a 2 which is terrible i hope it goes back up to page rank 3
  • One of my niche sites sank in rankings when I used a 301 redirect on a page to boost another ones rankings. My site got sent to the sandbox and is sitting there without any improvement. I will have to farm it to see if it gets its rankings back. Just a small error can send a new site flying to box in no time.
    - Archie (Luis)
  • this is the first time i am hearing about this stuffs. really interesting. i think i should be very careful about this. thanks for sharing this information.
  • I learn 2 good things from this post:

    1) Bad neighbourhood tool
    2) Keeping your blog updated regularly.

    Thanks.
  • Hmm. uptil this point, I have not experienced anything like this. But still i can understand what your feeling were.
  • Great advice,

    This will keep me on the straight and narrow.

    Totally agree one way linking or 3 way linking is so much better, this is what some of the best 3 SEO companies use.
  • You site can get a penalty without your site having done anything wrong. For example a scrapper could duplicate you site.

    Google thinks you have another website. Zapp you get hit with a google
    penalty.

    It's know as Google Bowling.

    Or a competitor could buy links for your site and then snitch to google that you have been buying links.
  • Me
    I had a couple of sites banned from google. They are all thin affiliate sites so I didn't bother submitting re-inclusion requests. I just made new ones to replace the others...
  • For a minute, I thought you meant the AdSense ban. I felt bad for you. But, I guess losing Google traffic is just as bad.

    Do you think that plugins like commentluv can harm you in Google, even if you're leaving genuine comments on different sites, but they're sites ranging from parenting to programming?

    <abbr>p1nk g33ks last blog post..Why you should get out of that traffic exchange or link exchange program ASAP!</abbr>
  • @p1nk g33k:Thanks for dropping by. I don't quite understand your question. First of all I won't visit sites that have no relevance to my niche, let alone leaving comments on them.
    ****
    Peter
    Work At Home Ideas
  • Google’s algorithm may activate its filters when there are incidents of unnatural backlinks accumulation through excessive reciprocal links exchange using the same anchor text links.
  • Sorry to hear that, Peter. They have very strict tos.
  • Google has become very strict. I've had a few sites get sandboxed after an aggressive article marketing campaign. Too many links at once I guess.
    I also hired an seo company that succeeded in getting one of my best sites completely de-listed. So, I've learned a few tough lessons.

    This is what is currently working for me:

    Build links slowly (especially for new sites)2-5/day
    Vary your anchor text
    Avoid too many links from one site
    Add content every day
    Don't use PLR or spun content
    Do not buy or sell links

    Ultimately, if you try to game the system, you'll get caught.

    Steve

    <abbr>business ideass last blog post..Profit With Your Own Grocery Delivery Service</abbr>
  • Hi Steve,
    Thanks for dropping by and sharing so much information here.There's also some interesting Q&A; Google had with webmasters in Oct'08. Worth reading it. Hope to see you around here again.
    http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster...

    Peter
    Work At Home Ideas
  • I just lost my 3rd page SERP on "make money on internet" yesterday, I probably use checklist to analysis what I did wrong.

    <abbr>Norhafidzs last blog post..Don’t Make Google Looks Stupid</abbr>
  • Hi Norhafidz,
    I'm sorry to hear that and I know exactly how you feel but I'm sure you'll get your SERP back after a few days like me. When you do hope you'll update us again.

    Peter
    Work At Home Business
  • Agreed - although my point was really about being careful who you end up linking to by people leaving dofollow comments. I may be wrong here, but I think it's less likely a site could be penalized by some other dodgy site linking to it - after all, you have no control over other people's links.

    <abbr>Rodney Smiths last blog post..Does Google penalize paid links?</abbr>
  • @Rodney Smith: Hi Rodney, that's a very good point you made. We may well be too carried away by all that commenting and easily forget about who links to you. I guess we have to do our due diligence and remember to check for 'bad neighborhood' sites.

    Peter
  • Hi Peter, being a Dofollow blog worries me slightly with respect to the whole Bad Neighbourhood thing - especially as the number of comments picks up, it's hard to keep tabs on all those sites you're linking to. Anyhow, glad to hear you came through it OK.

    BTW, the reason John Chow doesn't care too much about having lost a lot of PR is because he gets so much traffic from elsewhere and is so well-known. For a smaller, more obscure site, a Google penalty could do significant damage to your traffic and earnings.

    <abbr>Rodney Smiths last blog post..Does Google penalize paid links?</abbr>
  • @Proxy: Hi, thanks for dropping by. You're right. Everyone of us depends so much on Google's free traffic. I just can't imagine what it would be like without it though.

    Peter
    Legitimate Home Internet Business
  • If you lose google traffic it can be the end of your marketing career. It’s scary when you think of it like that!

    <abbr>Proxys last blog post..chavdude.com</abbr>
  • Exactumundo! The reason why even though I will not work the 25hr hour day "keeping my PR", I also don't want to see a 0 in the little bar :)

    <abbr>Dennis Edells last blog post..Do Advertisers Judge You By Design? What Do You Think…</abbr>
  • @Dennis Edell: Hi Dennis, you're right. If you rationalize a little here. People are saying PR means nothing but the same group of people say it is very good for advertising. So if we presume everyone will at some point in time start monetizing their blogs (as they should), then I guess this same group of people ought to say PR is important. Hmmm...just some food for thought.

    Peter
    Work At Home Ideas
  • I meant to capitalize A LOT also :-)

    <abbr>Dennis Edells last blog post..Do Advertisers Judge You By Design? What Do You Think…</abbr>
  • If you don't give a hoot about PR (as a lot of SEO's don't at this point), then go for it.

    Unfortunately it is STILL looked at as a marker by a lot of potential advertisers...and probably will be until it's gone.

    If that ever happens...

    <abbr>Dennis Edells last blog post..Do Advertisers Judge You By Design? What Do You Think…</abbr>
  • Hi Christopher,

    The buying and selling of links is pretty controversial. While many are just afraid of it, there are equally many who think nothing wrong of it considering it as another way of link building. One SEO expert tells me he allocates one day in a week just buying links and that he is a risk taker.

    Peter
    Work At Home Business
  • Wow, I knew you could get sunk for buying links but I never realized how strict Google could be. Thanks for some great link tools.

    <abbr>Christopher Rosss last blog post..Google Changes the Way SERP’s are Displayed</abbr>
  • @ Internet Marketing: Hi Jeff Paul, Thanks for dropping by and glad that you like my blog. Well the door is always open for you and hope to hear from you again.

    Peter
    Legitimate Home Internet Business
  • This blog Is very informative , I am really pleased to post my comment on this blog . It helped me with ocean of knowledge so I really belive you will do much better in the future . Good job web master .
  • Wow, $38,000. Man I wish I was making that much money a month. PR ranking is not always relevant as Google has their own internal ranking. Just building up quality content and updating your site often makes a much higher impact.
  • I got it, and responded. As for John Chow, yup, he's really raking it in these days. And with a relatively low PR; amazing, isn't it?

    <abbr>Mitchs last blog post..Do People Ever Check Out Your About Page?</abbr>
  • Hi Mitch,

    Wow! I know he is making lots of money but didn't know it's this much. Gosh isn't that some motivation to people like us?

    BTW, on the link exchange, I just sent you an email. Take a look

    Peter
  • It's hard to ignore, but even a big time blogger like John Chow only has a PR 3, and he just released his September earnings today, over $38,000. So, he's obviously not worried about it either.

    <abbr>Mitchs last blog post..Fear Of The Hack</abbr>
  • Hi Dennis,

    Thanks for dropping by. Yes I think that's the way to go. We shouldn't be much bothered about it and just do what is right for our business. Hope to see you again soon.

    Peter
  • Bah. I may be in the minority but I just don't worry about it. I do what's right and keep on...

    <abbr>Dennis Edells last blog post..Coming Soon? Yes They Are I Swear - I Need Your Advice First!</abbr>
  • Hi Nihar,

    It's nice to hear from you again. It's Ok, no harm done. My blog still remains at PR3 and my work at home ideas site, although went down to PR2, the SERP for 2 main keywords still showing at page 1 and page 2. What about your blog. Did you get PR4?

    Peter Lee
    Work At Home Ideas
  • Peter,

    Sorry to hear this.

    Great info to find out whether the blog is in firing line or not.

    Thanks for the post.

    <abbr>Peters last blog post..Get Free Kaspersky Internet Security 2009 License Code</abbr>
  • Peter Lee
    Hi Mitch,

    OK, glad you know the benefit of doing this internal link exchange. Here's how to do it. Go to:
    http://www.livepr.info/internal-pages-page-rank...
    find out a list of your internal pages e.g. your posts url and list down all those with at least PR2 (for a start let's do for pages with at least PR2). I will be sending you my list of pages with PR2. We then decide which ones we want to exchange link by putting our link with our anchor text keyword. Follow that example post that I did with my friend's blog.

    Peter
  • I wanna add one good point ...Never try to sell links in public ..bcoz few people who feel jealous abt ur site they will report to google ..Just Have some bucks and close that ...

    Other wise u loose ur pr and every thing
  • Peter Lee
    Hi Darren,
    Thanks for visiting my blog. You can find lots of link building tips in my 5-part Link Building Series. Here is one but it includes all the links of the other 4 posts too:

    10 Backlink Building Techniques Bloggers Often Missed

    Peter
  • Love to, Peter. Tell me how and I'm in!

    <abbr>Mitchs last blog post..R.I.P. Paul Newman</abbr>
  • Hi there,

    I love your blog i have been working hard on getting my blog index with blog an ping and it is working great i just need to get to work on getting some good links back to my blog now. Is there any way to fast track this or do i have to do one by one. I don't want to lower the quality of my back links do you have any suggestions

    Regards
    Darren
    http://homeincomeportal.com/darmol741/
  • Peter Lee
    Hi Mitch,
    Like you I've not done paid posts too. I agree with you that linking internal pages is important for SEO and I've written about it in my link building series too. Hey if you're interested we could exchange links on our inside pages. I've done quite a few with other bloggers too.Just give me a shout if you're keen.

    Hi Tom,
    Thanks for dropping by and I just came from your blog. You've a very nice blog and you can be sure I'll be visiting it. Do drop by and keep in touch. I'm sure there's lots we can learn from each other.

    Peter
    Work At Home Ideas
  • Good tips, we just started this blog and are looking to build ranking so it's good to find something like this right out of the gate. Thank you.
  • I guess I've been lucky in that I've never suffered a Google penalty of any type. Of course, I've never gone into the paid for posts, so I haven't had to deal with anything like that, and I believe that the CommentLuv and Dofollow plugins I've added will only help me, not hurt me like some bloggers seem to believe.

    But I'm also trying to figure out how one can over-optimize a site, other than trying to stuff hidden words in, which I've always believed was a pretty stupid thing to do anyway. What I have noticed is that people who have figured out how to optimize their internal linkage will usually end up with a PR 4 or 5, and man, I'm trying to get a 5 so badly! :-)

    <abbr>Mitchs last blog post..R.I.P. Paul Newman</abbr>
  • Peter Lee
    Hi Sire,

    I found out the reason my main PR dropped to PR2 is because Google is making a PR update today and I guessed I am not so favored by Mr G this time round. My blog remained at PR3 though. BTW when you said "....his time I am not going to make it so obvious to the bots that I am actually getting paid for posts", how did you make it obvious.

    Peter
  • Peter Lee
    Sire,
    Thanks for sharing. As luck would have it, I just found out my work at home ideas main page got PR reduced from 3 to PR2 and I like to find out the cause possibly a legitimate one as I have been linking more to my blog instead of my main page. Could you tell me how you determined yours was due to your paid postings. Did you get in touch with Google? to find this out. Sometime ago I corresponded with Google on other stuff but never got any response.

    Peter
  • Peter, I went from a PR4 to PR0 and have never got it back. It's one of the reasons for starting up my new blogs as the higher the PR the more you get per post. Only this time I am not going to make it so obvious to the bots that I am actually getting paid for posts.

    <abbr>Sires last blog post..How To Deal With Rude And Obnoxious Commentators</abbr>
  • Peter Lee
    @Sire: Hi Sire,care to tell us what kind of penalty you got from Google for doing paid posts? or does Google target any specific ones?

    @Andy Bailey: Thanks Andy for dropping by again. I just went to your Commentluv forum to ask for help when I thought it (latest version) didn't work. Truth is, I was signed in as 'admin' so I could not see it working. When I re-login using another url, it worked. Real cool man, I really love your plugin. Thanks!

    Peter
    Work At Home Ideas
  • I have never adapted or manipulated my posting behaviour to please the googlegods and only once had a reduction of PR but that was resolved by crying to google through webmaster tools and they put it back up!

    I suppose it'd be different if I had been banned though but knock on wood, I wont have to worry about it

    <abbr>Andy Baileys last blog post..Some important things to note for Wordpress plugin Authors</abbr>
  • I certainly suffered the wrath of the Almighty Google and it was all to do with me doing paid posts. I still do them as at least I get something for my trouble, more than what google gives me.
  • Peter Lee
    @Adidas: Hi, Thanks for dropping by and for sharing your own experience with the brush with Google. Glad you got your PR back. People who say PR is not important don't know what they are talking about. Do come back to update us on what else you've found out.

    Peter
    Work At Home Ideas
  • Previous week there is a update in google algorithm ...I dont know abt that when i check my pr it shows zero i felt tht google penalize the site immediately i checked any bad linking sites and removed one ...and i keep on checking for google penality posts ...Next day when i check the site my pr is 2 ...I felt very happy ...This is real thing happened for few members last week ...So The Tips that are provided by the person is absolute great info ..Please follow them as i studied many things this is one the best of the best
  • Peter Lee
    Hi Jason,
    It's good to see you here again. Free flowing Search Engine traffic is everybody's focus isn't it. It's always a challenge to get to the top spot. Hope to see more of you here man.

    Peter Lee
    Work At Home Ideas
  • Some handy tips you give Peter. If you lose google traffic it can be the end of your marketing career. It's scary when you think of it like that!

    Jason
  • Peter Lee
    Hi Darren,

    Thanks for saying so and hope you find other interesting things in my blog too. Hope to hear your views and do update us on your website building journey.

    Peter Lee
    Work At Home Ideas
  • This is great info i have just started on the long road to building my website and my blog and this info will help me on my way thanks
  • Peter Lee
    Hi Deborah and Mitch,

    Thanks for dropping by and Deborah I apologize for not responding earlier as I was sorting out a few teething problems on my new theme.

    Ok this is the post I wrote which is part of the 5-part Link Building Strategy Blog Series I recently completed.
    Link Building Strategy-DIY Work Schedule.
    Hey do read some of my 5 posts and tell me what you think about my link building strategy.

    Peter Lee
  • Greetings. I also sent searching for previous posts on 17-day frequency and couldn't find it. Could you share the link to that particular post? Thanks.
  • Could you direct me to more information about the 17-day frequency update thing? I've been redesigning all three of my sites and have updated several times a day so I'm concerned.

    Thanks.
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